regular basis and given the same breakfast, lunch, dinner day after day. we re talking about instant foods, kool-aid, frozen burritos. it just is not a wear to care for children who are our responsibility as a nation. let me ask you this. the conditions you describe sound just monstrous. yeah. how many children are there and how long were they there and where were the adults? yeah. so this is one of the things that shocked us right away. we did not even have this border patrol facility on our radar when we were planning our trip, this inspection, but we had heard the week before we left that there were children that were in recent weeks being moved to this facility, so we showed up there not sure how many children were going to be in this facility with maximum capacity of 104. there were over 350 children, chris, and we scanned the list and immediately we saw 0, 0, 1, 2, 4, 5. there were all ages. there were infants, toddlers, preschoolers and we couldn t
and over? who is in charge? where is the accountability? are there other facilities we don t even know about with similar or worse conditions? but the president and the vice president were forced to defend and address those conditions and turned to blaming democrats. well, we re doing a fantastic job under the circumstances. the democrats aren t even approving giving us money. where is the money? you know what? the democrats are holding up the humanitarian aid. we ll get a response from a democratic member of congress in just a few minutes. we do know that since the president ramped up his rhetoric about a border wall in january and had a big showdown fight about it, the number of crossings has risen sharply, as has the number of people in detention and reports of conditions going from bad to even worse. here with me now someone who saw the conditions at that facility in clint, texas in person. professor warren binford, a professor of law. professor, first just tell me what you saw
you have people who advocate for open borders and a vast safety social net. what do you think is going to happen, chris? you do think it is a deterrent? i think an open borders policy is not in the best interest of the united states of america. and i do think a secure border is in the best interest. look, i travel down to central america. i saw the conditions on the ground there. i get that there are problems. but there are much better ways of dealing with this. sure. than what has grown up over the past five years. that was prior to president trump taking office. i also understand the intense hatred for this administration, but you know what? he s going to be your president for another four years after this. well, whether that s true or not, my focus is more on children with lice crawling through their head in a u.s. facility that we are as citizens responsible for. wait a minute. those children arrive with the lice and they are you don t know that. you do not know
professor warren binford, a professor of law. professor, first just tell me what you saw in that facility. well, we saw children who were being forced to live in hord horrendous conditions that no child should ever have to live in. you mentioned influenza. removed the blankets and being forced to sleep on the cement ground. many children report they regularly were asked to sleep on the cement including infants and toddlers and preschoolers. we saw the children who were dirty and some of them smelled. we saw their clothes were stained. there was no soap. they were infrequently allowed to brush their teeth or take a shower. even then, it was only for a moment or two. they were fed food that is not suitable for children on a
congressman wait, wait, wait wait a second. what congress needs to do is appropriate the money to orr. we are going to talk about that. so they can take the children in a timely fashion. i want to return to the question. this is obviously something you ve devoted time and resources to. close to your heart and you ve visited these facilities. you and i agree the conditions described by that lawyer and others in the facility in clint i don t know. i have not been to that facility. i can t speak to that. but do you think she s making it up? chris, i don t know. the stuff that i was hearing reported in the news was not what i was seeing at tornio. at homestead air force base, not what i was hearing on the news media. you think this is fictional? i don t know if it s hyperbole. i know that the hatred for this president is so intense people are liable to say anything. i got to go look for myself and see for myself. let me ask you this. one of the things you sa