some ways, there are moments we just have to ignore the politics on one hand, try to create the right politics on the other, i suppose, but just do the right thing. so for me, ultimately it was a matter of conscience. and as you and i once talked in studio, in 10 or 15 years, i m going to answer questions from my grandchildren about what i did in this moment, this turning point in american history. and i sure want to have the right answer. what s the turning point for the house speaker nancy pelosi? our nbc news count shows coming up on 110, but over 100 members of the democratic caucus who say that these impeachment proceedings should be launched. what number what number does that have to be for her to change course here? yeah, i don t know that it s a precise number, but, clearly, if a mairjority of the caucus h this view, that changes the conversation when we get back in september. and i do suspect that more members are going to be coming to this conclusion. not just because o