our young people go over there to fight for a country they love so much. we re the aftermath, the casualties of war. my daughter-in-law, my son, my grandchildren, they re the casualties of war. young people, the soldiers coming back with ptsd, they re the casualties of war. it s not really about whether or not a person called or did something more than the previous one. it s about what are you doing now to help those who are left behind. if that letter or that phone call could bring my son back, i would run from here on foot to washington, d.c. to get that letter. but right now it really doesn t matter who did the greatest thing. what matters right now is that people remember my job. to your point, john, and i thought that was just so sort of powerfully stated, that what she s focused on is people remembering her son and thinking about the consequences of what
those gone this moment fighting for us. i just want my child back. i just want my child. this is what happens when people, our young people go over there to fight for a country they love so much. we re the aftermath. we re the casualties of war. what we re all feeling right now is empathy. we are not suffering. what sheila murphy suffers. we can t. but she s just communicated with us in a way that allows us, makes us feel some of what she has endured and we have no idea what donald trump would feel if he watched sheila murphy talk about the casualties of war. we have no idea if donald trump feels anything. dozens of psychiatrists who have studied his behavior for the last couple of years are convinced that donald trump feels nothing. they re convinced that the only thing donald trump would feel in listening to sheila murphy is
because you don t know how it s going to affect that person or those persons. and what i really want to say, i decent want this to be some back and forth banter about whether or not someone did a better job. it s about my son, etienne. specialist etienne murphy. he loved doing what he did. and now, this is the aftermath. this is what happens when people our young people go over there to fight for a country that they love so much. we re the aftermath. we re the casualties of war. my daughter-in-law, my grandchildren, my son, they re the casualties of war. young people, those soldiers that come back with ptsd, they re the casualties of war. it s not about whether or not a person may have called or did something more than the previous one. it ee s about what are you doin now to help those who are left
but that hardliners are ascendant right now both in pyongyang and in washington, and frankly the north koreans were not very interested in some kind of negotiated peace deal like a freeze for a freeze, and so i think that exit ramp is going to be really hard to find. well, we re going to have to leave it there. thank you very much, nick kristof, john mcglocklin. meanwhile, a mother killed last may reminding of us what gold star families go through after they receive that devastating letter about a loved one. this is what happens when young people go over there to fight for the country they love so much. we re the aftermath, we re the casualties of war, so it s not really about whether or not a person maybe called or did something more than the previous one, it s about what are you doing now to help those who are left behind, who have to struggle day to day?
daughter-in-law, they re the casualties of war. young people, those soldiers coming back with ptsd, they re the casualties of war. so it s not really about that s sheila murphy talking about the loss of her son in may in syria. she s not received a phone call or a letter from president trump about the loss of her son. joining us now, john mclaughlin, former acting director of cia and national security analyst and yeah son johnson, politics editor at the root.com and contributor. jason, just want to begin with you and feel free to take any part of this story that you d like to comment on. there is there is no greater sacrifice that is made sort of an american history than by our soldiers who die and also the family that is support them. there is no amount of phone calls or letters or anything from the president that can replace losing someone that you