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anger at taft for not being a warrior on the conservation front. in your book, i have heard the story before, but you create that scene where roosevelt and taft are together at a dinner and the question is asked about what he wants to do next. what was that moment, 1908? they do get together and he really believed in taft a lot during his presidency and that s why he was the handpicked successor. t.r. could have won another term easily. he was the only real president that relinquished power because he had other things to do. it wasn t big game hunting that he had to do. t.r. left the presidency to explore and to collect. he was collecting for the american museum of natural history and went to brast to collect and what is today rio roosevelt. i can t let your listeners explain how much this was who he was. roosevelt didn t have a conservation policy. he was the naturalist. he was the top naturalist, one of the four or five top naturalists of his era. and so this is what hi