known that the reduction of the of the mortgage was, in fact, a a cash reduction and should have been reported. the fact is that, hey, if you re saying should i have known yes, should i have been censu censured? i say no. at least this conversation, congressman, that we re having, it seems i want to give you a chance to respond to this you re blaming your staff, you re blaming your accountants, but not blaming yourself. i m trying to say as clear as i can that there s no one else to blame except myself. in a moment, more of my interview with charlie rangel, including his reaction to new allegations that are now being leveled against him since the censure. stand by for that. also, coming up at 6:00 p.m., the top of the hour here at the situation room, wikileaks founder julian arc