conservatives getting mad. on john mccain said this is a great pick. rand paul. i don t think it has anything to do with george w. bush. i think it has to do with kavanaugh s statement and the collection of metadata. on the opposite side of where the carpenter court was, saying the government doesn t have access to your third party data out there. but no, conservatives are very happy. what i would add, this is important, he came up in an early obamacare challenge. he talked about the philosophy of deference. he said we should the courtses should avoid the temptation to give into big weighty constitutional issues on big weighty laws. like have a sense of restraint going into a place i don t understand what you re saying. well, this is in a 2011 case here, whose name escapes me, he was in the dissent and said we should not get into this case because we should basically hang
religious objections. that s what the supreme court does and should talk about. there s a lot going to be said in the next eight or nine weeks to iron this house once we have the nominee. david, what are you going to be watching most closely? we ve been told phil mattingly, this is an all-out war and we could say that bon both sides. of course it will be. this matters, let s remind people, this does change the direction of the court. anthony kennedy who has been in some ways a huge disappointment to conservatives because of his ruling on the casey case upholding roe v. wade and gay rights has moved the court. his successor will do that as well. that s why this matters. and this goes to jeffrey s point, this is just another means of politics deciding the future of the court, deciding these issues and being able both sides being able and wanting to
believes that once rights are recognized they will not be taken away. that includes the right to abortion that he hechd reserve and the rights to gay people he helped establish including the right to marry and be treated equally in our society. of course time will tell. i m joined by nina totenberg, npr legal affairs correspondent and the author of the article, and cecil cecile why do i do this? i know you forever. cecile richards, former president of planned parenthood. thank you both. nina, i ve known you forever. you re probably the most famous person covering the court. how do you see this just talk about floirkts for two seconds, only now. if you re looking at this thing as a judicial process, picking the right sort of a relatively conservative person, what s the risk if you re a progressive looking at the court right now? are they really in danger of getting rid of roe v. wade, the undue burden phrase from the casey case? are they real in danger of that do you think? we
but i think this will do it for him. too bad. there were other people being considered. but, you know, be fair to kennedy. he voted conservative more often than not. the issue is he voted he didn t vote pro life on two critical cases. the casey case, and the recent one on gay marriage. and those are obviously third rail hot issues. that is what got him in a bad rep with conservatives. melissa: so as somebody who has looked at picking somebody before and put someone up, as you look at the list or con template this, what would contemplate this, what would you advise? bill: can i be specific? my former speech writer is on the list. allison ide. stanford graduate, colorado supreme court, tenth circuit. that is a great list. this notion that you mention you quoted somebody saying no
her prince, or john cole train. jesse? not like heavy death metal that you play, anytime type of top 40. nobody uses that phrase anymore. with casey case and. about to give you someone different. how about you too, new year s day. that same song over and over? on the pick power trip is the