power was ever loss in this incident so that does show you the industry is losing leanings resiliency. jenna: even with the mass blackouts we have seen in the past like in 2003 2003 west of blackouts on the east coast caused in part by a tree branch, was not even anything that was a serious attack. we re talking the way some of these companies can prepare if they are attacked, so what about prevention, where are we on that? we have all experienced different parts of the country whether it is hurricane, tornadoes, and i lived in new york when the blackout happened, it was quite disturbing. you have these moments where it can hit the substation. there can be cascading effects. what both industry and the government have been working on our modeling out essentially those kind of cascading scenarios where they can identify the chokepoints and in industry to hard-nosed