Do it on pcs, you can download individual tracks, individual albums. The variety of ways that people can acquire music today is astounding and inconceivable 20 years ago. Host that transition from what we knew but ten years ago to what we know today, what has that done to the guest we find that theres a new transition coming along the way, which is whats making it so challenging. But also it makes it interesting and the opportunities are so great because youre finding new audiences and new ways of delivering the music, around itses are finding new ways to connect with fans. Host we want to bring alex byers of politico into this conversation as well. Sure. Carrie, its 2015 cary, its 2015, its never been easier to use spotify or a platform like that. Do we still need record labels at this point . Will we in ten years as technology continues to develop . Guest you know, when the internet first started becoming the new development, people thought that the era of labels might be over. Why w