it looks like it might have stopped. remember this is not a straight hole. it s through rock. there was rock crumbling. there were pieces of rock crumbling. so there are chances that this thing can get stuck for a moment or two. you can see the family looking with great relief the wheel is moving again. that s the mining minister in the red shirt. the guy in the jacket is obviously a family member of pablo rojas. they re only allowing a couple of family members per person. there is pablo, the 19th miner to be rescued of 33, leaves 14 more. pablo rojas. he s a carrier pigeon handler. carrier pigeons will tell you if the air quality has deteriorated to the point that it is not usable. in many mines they don t use carrier pigeons but electronic means of monitoring the air. this guy and his cousin were carrier pigeon handlers.