recordings of trump s interviews with phil rucker and carol lening have shed new light on the former president s feelings about that, including his frustration with mike pence. pence was evacuated by secret service as insurrectionists moved dangerously close to him. what does he want him to do? i thought that the election was rigged. i think that when you have more voters when you have more votes than you had voters, i think that the vice president of the united states must protect the constitution of the united states, right? and it says very, very clearly protect the constitution of the united states. with us now are washington