it s simple for him to say this is what s going to happen. but there are some technicalities the lawyers have to work out that are somewhat complicated. those crossing the t, dotting the i lawyers need to obsess over. not simple. mayor, i do hear from team trump and the transition folks that people, there s a belief that people are never going to be satisfied no matter what they decide, no matter what they announce, even if it is the biggest bright line they draw between business and family and the white house. from your perspective, what is the right amount? i think first of all, we have to realize that donald trump probably never expected to be president in november. he spent an entire life building companies. between november and december, how do you just divest yourself of everything that you own? i really do believe, i m not trying to defend president-elect trump, but you don t do that very often, democratic mayor of miami beach. give them time. donald trump would love t
s.e.a.l. and trump supporter and phil levine, former mayor of miami beach and kate anderson-brower, author of first women and residents, inside the private world of the white house. great to see you. sara, phil was talking about the reporting on jared kushner and where the loop hole is there. you are reporting on ivanka trump and her role in the white house and her real estate in the white house. right. at one point, she did this interview and said she would not be heading to the white house. that appears to be changing. they are peerepared to relocateo washington, d.c. and ivanka trump is expected to have an office in the east wing. normally this would be the first lady s office. under a donald trump white house this will become the first family office. it will be an opportunity for her not to just do the washington hostess thing but we have already seen her advise her father on issues like climate change, on issues like paid family leave. she brings a more liberal perspective tha
his move to the white house as it pertains to his business sound like it s so complicated when it s not. it is. and how do i know that? how did we all know that? his advisers have been saying that repeatedly. they have been giving that as the reason why they delayed the press conference today and delayed the announcement of the details. there s an easy bright line way to do this. divest his business holdings entirely. don t involve his children at all. the president-elect has already said he s not going to do that. until they figure out the path forward, it is complicated and when you talk to sources inside the trump operation, they say two things. one, they recognize this is a potential problem for them and they would like more of a clear line option. two, their lawyers are very hard at work at this, trying to figure out a path forward. they hope they can meet that january deadline they set. the lawyers may not think it s quite as simple as he apparently does. it s complicated try
come on. you re not proposing we go back to the days of internment camps. i m not proposing that at all. that s the kind of stuff that gets people scared, carl. right. i m just saying there s precedent for it and i m not saying i agree. you can t be citing japanese internment camps as precedent for anything that the president-elect is going to do. as you can imagine, there was major backlash after carl higbee, a prominent trump supporter, cited world war ii internments camps in the u.s. as a precedent for trump world s desire for a muslim registry. due to rates of beliefs that all people of japanese ancestry posed a security risk after the bombing of pearl harbor more than 100,000 men, women and children were rounded up and relocated, forced to live in camps during world war ii. 62% of internees were united states citizens. my next guest recently wrote a moving column putting human face
guys we re trying to keep out. this will be a debate in the country. thank you, carl higbie and dalia l lithwick. when we return. the saints and the panthers, what do you guys expect tonight? i think you re going to see wide open football. both coaches play it like it s a football game. pull out all the stops. drew brees threw for 400 yards in the first game. i expect him to flthrow almost 0 yards this game. start your weekend now with thursday night football, saints and panthers on nbc and the nfl network.