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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 05:21:00

sharing few details, even with good friends like local marina owner, bill. do you remember the first time you saw him? yes. i gave him a hug. it was tears, from both of us. the top here, along rhode island, was that david wasn t acting the way a grieving widower should. to some people who, he was detached at her memorial service. to others, it looked as though he was living it up on the $600,000 he received after shelley s death. and, a few months after losing his wife, he started dating again. going on main street, on how shelley fell underwater, some locals who knew the way around scuba thought, it didn t add up. certainly, when you go up, and down, it was people on both sides that they can t do. it could it be that it was remotely possible that david swain had something to do with his wife, charles, death?

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 05:34:00

over towards the wreath area to see if there is something there to see. but, according to the prosecutor, 5 to 10 minutes into the dive is exactly when shelley died. here s why, as laid out by experts. the prosecutor said that based on the amount of oxygen used from chile s air tank on the fateful last time, they estimated, she had taken her last breath at about eight minutes into the dive. meaning, after eight minutes underwater, she had drowned. the experts then said it, given swain s description of his dive, and eight minutes in, swain would have been right where shelley was, right when she was drowning. obviously, he was there, with her. further, it goes to tell you, when he swims away, according to him, looks back to see her, and she is fine, it cannot be true. why would he do it, the prosecutor asked? just take a snapshot of shelley and david s life before their vacation, he said. shelley had recently taken a new job, to spend more time with her husband, but, she had also

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 05:14:00

ten minutes into the dive, she appeared fine, but somehow, at some point in what should have been a pleasant little dive before lunch, something went gravely amiss. david swain says he s surfaced alone and spoke to christian. my first question, was is shelley back yet? he said no, i said okay. looks like you are going in? at that moment, is there any alarm but she has not broken the surface? he was not alarmed, i was not alarmed. christian then started his dive. he later gave a statement that between the outer line of the wrecks, he found something off shelley s fin, like this one, sticking out of the sand. when you got closer to the wrecks he found shelley herself, lying on the ocean for, face up, eyes open, near one end of the boats. he quickly grabbed her and brought her to the surface. then christian does come back? he does not come back, he surfaces, screaming. what did you hear in his voice? words? alarm? the word was emergency. swain hopped in the dinghy and

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 05:43:00

a void of some kind, do you think? mary was being an emotional friend. she was fun to be with, she was a smart girl, she was empathetic. but was nary motivation for murder? absolutely not. what about those letters that david wrote to her? you have a dead wife on the one hand, and my soulmate on the other. did you give the prosecution ammunition with it? he really laid into me. i probably didn t answer things in a way that made the jury happy. that idea, laid out by the prosecution, that was surely gone, david would get the money, and the girl, was a juicy sounding motive. but, swain to tierney, tim, says it is untrue. the idea of david, intentionally, attacking his wife is not borne out by history. he has no history of violence. he has never raised a hand to anyone in his life. yet, what else but an attack would explain shirley s broken dive gear, found strewed about

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 05:12:00

two wrecks sitting next to each other, bow to stern, there is a small gap between them. that is fish life. david swain, and his friend were both certified scuba instructors. between them, they had more than 1000 dives between their belts. and shelley tyre was no novice. in her book, she recorded more than 350 dives. now, divers with comparable experience will tell you that diving the twin wrecks site is a nice, flat sandy bottom, great visibility and minimal currents. it is about as challenging as a walk in the park on a sunny day. at about noon that day, the caribbean soul tied up at the twin wrecks, nabbing the sole motoring buoy, it is sometimes busy tourist ocean, the friends on board would have the dive site all to themselves. then, david and shelley made their

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