And now it is a legal term. Ask anybody. Theyll tell you. Thank you, ari. See you later, joy. And we do continue to follow the breaking news tonight that donald trump has received indictment number three, courtesy of the d. C. Grand jury investigating his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. And let us just be clear, this is an historic moment in this country. Never has a president of the United States refused to relinquish power until trump. Never has a former president come up with a conspiracy that involves having their Vice President overturn the will of the people through the use of fake electors until trump. Never has a former president incited an insurrection with armed extremists to storm the u. S. Capitol until trump. And no u. S. President has ever been indicted before trump. And again for trump, this is indictment number three. And in many ways, it is the most historically significant one because its not just about his personal conduct. It is about us, our democracy. And n
today. that would be merrick garland. i ve been a very big skeptic of merrick garland, i think at one point i called him merrick i admit to doing that. but it is very clear that his strategy in appointing jack smith one out here. he has somebody that has got distance, distance from the doj, distance from the white house. let me play you what he said, he had very brief remarks. let s play them. career men and women at the justice department engaged in what has become the largest investigation in our history. in november, i appointed jack smith, the special counsel, to take on the ongoing investigation, in order to underline the department s commitment to accountability and independents. mr. smith and his team of experienced, principled, career agents and prosecutors have followed the facts and the law wherever they lead. any questions about this matter
do you have any evidence that the fbi targeted trump campaign unfairly? i don t. he doesn t. he is sort of in an tortured way probably because he realizes that donald trump fires people who don t tell him his conspiracy theories are true, but in the end, he agreed no, they didn t spy on the trump campaign. why the you suppose bill barr still thinks that he the go out and say things that are so blatantly untrue? he s a nakedly partisan warrior. that s basically the sum total of bill barr and who he is. i look at those remarks from barr and those remark from wray and i think back to when sessions and rosenstein were in the department and how discouraging it always was when the president would attack the fbi and the justice department as a deep state that was trying to do barack obama s bidding to hurt him and they would never say anything. they would never stand up and defend the career men and women doing their jobs just to follow the facts and the law. what we have now is so mu
president sort of abusing his authority, acting in a really sort of dramatically nefarious way for personal political gain. on the other hand, this gives me some hope, you have a cadre of career national security officials, career diplomats, career professionals, who know what wrong looks like and did something about it. right? i mean, the reason we re talking about this, the reason we know about it, is because folks stepped forward. maybe at personal risk to their own careers, their own profession, their own reputation, and let us know what they saw and heard. and so in many ways, even though you had this remarkably broken apparatus in the white house led by the president, you also have career men and women doing their jobs and thank goodness for that. and, joyce, the washington post includes reporting about some of the things that preceded the phone call including the bolton went ballistic scene. and that involves the man who refused to testify to congress this week. ambassador s
apparatus in the white house led by the president, you also have career men and women doing their jobs and thank goodness for that. and, joyce, the washington post includes reporting about some of the things that preceded the phone call including the bolton went ballistic scene. and that involves the man who refused to testify to congress this week. ambassador sondland who was in a meeting in the white house where he started talking about what the president needed from ukraine in terms of investigations and it says, senior officials understood sondland s statement to be a reference to biden and bolton went ballistic. after the meeting, he said joyce, today s the day when my speculation on the day john bolton was fired that he would immediately be seeking a book deal that was confirmed, axios