as you know, stephanie, market-based solutions really work. we put a fee on carbon. it cuts emissions by 90%, but we give the money right back to the american people which is different than what other people have tried to do. the president of france put a fee on carbon and he kept the money to use for tax cuts, and people went into the streets and protested. the governor of washington state tried to put a carbon fee in place, but he wanted to keep the money in the government, and it got rejected at the ballot box. my proposal has republicans supporting it. i can get this done in my first year as president with a coalition of all the democrats in the congress and the republicans who live in coastal states because they have to respond to this. they re hearing it from their voters, both democrats and republicans. so you have to think coalition building when we talk about climate change because we re running out of time on this issue, and we have to act right away. do you think this plan
bipartisan basis that s right, democrats and republicans coming together under my leadership to do something really big on climate and this is the cornerstone of my plan. i think it s the thing we can do that can get done right away and make a huge difference in terms of dealing with climate. it s only part of my plan. okay. bipartisanship, from people around the country, that s what they re looking for. absolutely. you and i know you will get classic pushback from republicans that this carbon fee will add costs to businesses. businesses are going to add costs on to consumers. what is your response to that and, also, help me understand when businesses are getting extraordinary tax cuts why they still have to past on every cost, i m thinking the tariffs, back on to the consumers? business have is big margins. they do. most businesses are actually supportive of a carbon fee structure. most of the large businesses in this country have come out in support of this kind of a stru
facing are voters changing perception on climate change. that debate was front and center during town hall events with democratic lawmakers in the rust belt. nbc s hans nichols was there. my big concern is the environment. i would like to see us move towards first of all i would like to see congress support the new carbon fee and dividend. unmistakable signs of more precipitation and bigger events. that s not good for the crops, that s not good for people who live near rivers. we re very concerned about the policy moving forward that will be constructive and protect the environment and good for people. nbc s hans nichols joins me now from wisconsin. hans, were you surprised to hear that many of these voters were listing climate change at the top of their list? i know we ve been hearing about health care for many years now. that was a little bit different. reporter: well, it s a
there s been a lot of successes on emissions and carbon. but there is a setback in a referendum that was put to the voters, which was essentially a kind of carbon fee on big oil companies. it was put directly to the voters, and it lost in a liberal state where you re popular, where these ideas are not anathema. what does that say to you about the politics of this issue still in the year 2018-2019? it says we need to use different tools. that s interesting. we have lot of tools in the toolbox. does that mean carbon toxs are politically toxic and dead? not necessarily. i wouldn t take anything off of the table. but as of this moment, today we adopted new emission standards. we re going to adopt 100% green grid law.
connect with people in the midwest, in smaller communities, to help them grow jobs in their economicty challenging circumstances, than to show them the job creating opportunities that we have demonstrated in my state, that are making carbon fiber in moses lake, small town. making solar power in lynn, washington, this is a jobs message, perhaps first and foremost. but we need a president who will show a vision for that type of optimistic future, and they need to do that out of the chute. this is not going to be easy. let s talk about your state. there s been a lot of successes on emissions and carbon. but there is a setback in a referendum that was put to the voters, which was essentially a kind of carbon fee on big oil companies. it was put directly to the voters, and it lost in a liberal state where you re popular,