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of the energy goes up and we all pay for the energy. how do you make sure that ordinary people do not pay the carbon company. guest: one way that has been discussed by the congressional budget office is a payroll tax rebate for those in the lower income brackets so we shield the middle class and the poor from the effects of the tax while still getting the benefits of reduced carbon tax, rather, reduced carbon emission. that is the goal. not the revenue. the revenue is nice if we don t hurt people. the goal is to save the environment and reduce global warming. stuart: you think carbon taxes will save the land it? guest: yes. we need to reduce the carbon emissions. stuart: are you worried about the next big storm because we are putting out too much carbon? guest: i am. a lot of people in new york city and tri-state area are still suffering. so i am worried. i am worried, more, for what my

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