you and i have reported on this over the years and normally what happens is it gets to a question of what does the company know, when did it know it. they go back in the record, when were they apprised of the danger. you know how that s going. it s already happening here. here s the issue, los angeles times report as far back at 2003, sienna minivans had a problem with pedals. in 2006, the tundra, same issue. no word about it then. that could come back and bite them. always does, the memos and emails. jeff flock in chicago. is all this about getting to the bottom of the car crisis or getting americans bottoms into american union-made cars. someone smells a r jim, you re saying the protesters in the white house are curious. what do you mean?