have been disrupted by covid. you know our liz claman there. it s up 8 or 9% this year and opposite of about 10% falloff in the s&p 500. so, he s doing something right. yes, he s beating the s & p. and you know we had a falloff on wall street yesterday, neil. it s a cultish kind of pilgrimage and what else do they hope to see? who else has a meeting with a giant geico gecko. he just took a swipe at wall street and the big boys on wall street who try to game run it ahead of the average investor. they make their money by swooping up the crumbs off off the capitalism table that fall to the ground and he sauls the