to go. he just has to come back for his next court date. and then we will be into the motions phase that we just heard donald trump s lawyers talking about so this happens every day all day in this courthouse, and that s what will happen tuesday. let me go to john miller. john you ve been doing an excellent reporting on all of this. i know you learned that trump is facing 30 plus counts related to business fraud. what more can you tell us about that? well i think what you re seeing is the overarching charge is going to be falsification of business records where the 30 plus counts come from is um, you know, the payments were made in multiple checks, so each check will be a count of false falsified business records because the purpose is stated as one thing when it s supposed to be another each check came with an invoice , which you know, sought payment for that each one of those will be a different count. um but i wouldn t read too much into the number of counts in that it doesn t affec
the indictment, when we see that that s the way our process works , but let s take a step back. you know those folks who are saying that former president shouldn t be indicted? let s just actually think about what these people are saying. what they re saying is if you hold the highest office in the land that you should be immune from prosecution and indictment. can we just imagine how dangerous that would be to our system of democracy? if you become president, anybody becomes president and there forever immune and just can t be indicted for illegal activity. that is not our system, nor should it be that alone would set an incredibly dangerous precedent for our nation. as you know republicans, many of them are calling this indictment political and they re pointing to the manhattan district attorney, alvin brags, boasts during his own campaign for that office and one campaign forum, he said. and i m quoting now i have investigated trump and his children and held them accountable for thei
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this criminal indictment against trump. house speaker kevin mccarthy calls it an unprecedented abuse of power. other leading house republicans are echoing trump in slamming it as a political prosecution. how do you respond to those criticisms? well wolf first off . nobody has actually seen the indictment. we know that that one exists. it hasn t been sealed yet. grand jury proceedings or some of the most secretive, closed proceedings in the criminal justice system. we expected that indictment might be unsealed next week. that s number one number two politicians don t indict people. grand juries indict people, so when we all get those jury notices in the mail, we show up for jury duty. a certain number of us are pulled away to serve on grand juries just like everybody else. there s nothing special about it. it s the same jury pool. you go and you serve out a grand jury. you listen to the evidence, and then you
we ve really seen, not just in the case of this indictment, but for several different issues in the past several years. we hear his allies saying this could happen to trump. it could happen to anyone of capital trump. it could happen to you. it s interesting jeff because so many house republicans and even potential rivals to trump for the republican presidential nomination, they re rushing to his defense right now. i want you to listen. i want viewers to listen to what the former vice president mike pence told me last night. i think the unprecedented indictment the former president of the united states on a campaign finance issue. is an outrage when you have an attorney general in new york manhattan, d a. that targeted one particular american in their campaigns. i think that offends the notion of the overwhelming majority of the american people who believe in fairness who believe in equal treatment before the law. as you know, the former vice president has been critical of trump and