large they say this explosion was. if this is what they claim was an h-bomb, how big was it. north korea had said they have the capability oproduce warheads that are significantly larger than anything we ve seen them test before. we ll let you go as you just completed your 14th trip to north korea, i ve got to ask you about the propaganda value of such a test if indeed it is confirmed it was a nuclear test. talk to me about the value domestically for kim jong unf fr him to have done such a thing. it s huge. not only do they gain scientific knowledge from these test, but i ll give you an example. we were down at the central train station late last week. one day after the rest of the world knew that missile was launched over northern japan. for all of tuesday, north koreans went about their day with no idea this happened. and right now, it s sunday. the only day off in north korea.