$70 trillion is what s out there. they re talking peanuts which i suggest is we have to build our way out, we cannot cut our way out. which is not to say that we shouldn t discuss cuts, but it won t get ultimaout of here. martha, how do you think that you get the natural and reasonable conversation about cutting some aspects of the deficit, certainly dealing with social security on a level of the wealthy, why are the wealthy collecting social security, why are they not collecting social security at a certain cap point, mean testing, various things like that. at the very least, how do you sort of not lose that? well, i mean, you ve got to everything s got to be on the table. and the bottom line is social security, they need to start changing the criteria today, not