president trump falsely declared victory on november 3, 2020. how he and his team launched a fraudulent media campaign that persuaded tens of millions of americans that the election was stolen from him. donald trump intentionally ran false ads on television and social media featuring allegations of his advisers and justice department repeatedly told him were untrue. we have also seen how donald trump launched a fraud lend fund-raising campaign that raised hundreds of millions of dollars, again, based on the same election fraud allegations. we ve seen how president trump and his allies corruptly attempted the pressure of vice president pence to renews to couldn t lawful electoral votes and obstruct congress s proceedings on january 6 and how he provoked a violent mob to pursue the vice president and others in our capitol.
restricts that both white house and the justice department end, those more sensitive issues to the highest ranks. so for criminal matters, the policy for a long time has been that only the attorney general and the deputy attorney general from the doj side can have conversations about criminal matters with the white house or the attorney general and the deputy attorney general can authorize something with their permission but the idea is to make sure that the top rung of the justice department knows about it and is in the thing to control it, make sure only appropriate things are done. mr. engle, from your perspective, why is it important to have a policy like mr. rosen just discussed? it s critical that the department of justice conducts their investigations free from reality or free from political interference. people can get in trouble if
0 and don t forget, tomorrow more opinions coming from the supreme court. will dobbs be among them, will it be held until next week and what will the fallout be when we learn what the supreme court will do. sandra: and we ll be watching all of it. thank you for joining us here. i m sandra smith. john: i m john roberts. martha maccallum is up next with special coverage martha: that is correct. good afternoon, everybody. i m martha maccallum at fox news head quarters in new york. welcome to special coverage where moments away from the start of the fifth public hearing in the past two weeks. today s testimony is expected to focus on the former president s alleged pressure campaign on the justice department. that s what they re going to be testifying too during the 2020 election. testifying today, you see them sitting down at a table right now, getting ready. lots of cameras. you have jeffery rosen, the former attorney general that left the justice department after bill barr resigned