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merely set the goal. kate there. joining me now in the studio is director of evidence and implementation at cancer research uk naseer turabi, and from pembrokeshire, the welsh minister for health and social services eluned morgan. we did ask the government tojoin us, but no minister or conservative mp was made available. good evening both of you. eluned, first of all, labour has said the government is shifting the goalposts because they cannot meet the targets for cancer, but clinicians have been involved in this, and not only clinicians, the cancer task force has been behind these changes for eight years? we have modernised the way that we measure our targets, our lists in relation to cancer four years ago. we have a single measurement. 75% of our patients have to start their treatment within 62 days from suspicion, so it is one single
it hit 75% only once in february this year. and we have to remember, when the independent cancer taskforce first recommended this change all the way back in 2015, it suggested a target of 95% right the way at the top there. getting there would take more than a target. well, changing the targets in themselves is unlikely to make a big difference to how patients experience the service, because one of the underlying problems in terms of the underlying problems in terms of how quickly patients are seen as just the gap between the number of people coming forward and being referred and the capacity of cancer services to see people, diagnose them, scan them, do tests and so on, and that gap has been growing over time. improving cancer survival is a wholesale challenge. targets, we should remember,