we ve discussed, this is the one that we can remember. my buddy and i used to run around in the backyard with a stick, trying to find water. i m not sure that we were any good at it. did you find anybody in vermont who might actually be able to do this? well, i definitely got some cards, some business cards of people who have been dousing for a long time. they claim to get up to 90% success rates when they douse. i actually, at des moines college once took a group of students out on the main campus lawn, and with the help of metal coat hangers that had been bent into dousing rods, we pretty much found the layout of the underground water pipes and telephone wires. really? yes, i had secured a map from the buildings and grounds crews before we went out, and we were all pretty surprised that within, you know, some general range of accuracy, we were able to find the lines. and what did you learn what would be the dynamic that would create more gravitational
those are the details that we have right now. the detainees, one was arrested pretty quickly. the other detained moments later. the students obviously now as we look at these pictures live from outside the whose ton area in than houston area in santa fe, texas spilled on to the campus lawn as they were evacuating and lined up for their lives. the bus there is for the end of the school day. but the purpose to get the students to a safe location and await off-campus for the parents to pick them up. santa fe, texas, sheriff s department gave a briefing just a short time ago. in that briefing, they talked about what it was like inside that school. i want to bring in our first guest, pat blasman former nypd detective joining us by phone. pat, you are with us? yes, good afternoon. heavy always wish that it were under different circumstances, we need your expertise.