university marching band under investigation for the death of a student. we ll hear from mothers of two band members. and the blame game and herman cain. it s always someone else s fault, and he s not alone. it s our no talking points segment. these false and unproved allegations continue to be spined in the media. it s all right here right now on cnn. good evening. i m don lemon. thank you for joining us. winter is coming. occupy protesters have been getting ready. this plastic bubble recently went up in buffalo, new york. it was donated by supporters so demonstrators can stay warm and dry. in portland, oregon, police moved in when people set up camping tents. but the real drama today has been in washington. police and protesters have been in a standoff over a wooden building that went up overnight. let s get to cnn s athena jones. athena? hi, don. you know, this ended just a little while ago with the police finally being able to take down the last protester who wa
it going somehow? it does seem like they are strong enough, at least so far, to keep it going somehow. that same point about the fact that this is not going away was made eloquently and pretty effectively i think by dan siegel on this program last night. dan siegel is the adviser to oakland mayor jean quan who resigned in protest over that city once again clearing out their occupy encampment. dan siegel was our guest on the interview last night. to me it seems like a totally useless and futile activity to spend millions of dollars to take people out of tents, to create situations where there was bloodshed in our streets and lots of chaos for days. because they re going to come back. this is a movement that can t be stopped. they re going to come back. although he did not put it in these specific terms, dan siegel was essentially recommending last night that cities consider taking the approach that washington, d.c., has taken as a city thus far. which is to not try to clear the
the movement when the tents came out, when they erected tents on the site. i thought about that today, when we had multiple reports that police were using knives to physically shred the heavy duty tents, the military-grade tents people thought would be key to how they would survive winter. we don t have footage of that. we ve seen multiple reports. we have footage of police using portable hand held saws to saw down the tent poles from the tents. how to you feel like the movement will be effected by that in particular? by the tearing down of tents? make the distinction between the small sort of personal individual camping tents, which, excuse me, i ve got a case of what they call zuccotti lung, the cough from being in the park. and these larger army tents. the library was now housed in one of these library tents. they had shelves and so on. people who say oh, these tents are places where they re private and nothing can happen, aren t really dealing with the steps that the occupy movem
the movement when the tents came out, when they erected tents on the site. i thought about that today, when we had multiple reports that police were using knives to physically shred the heavy duty tents, the military-grade tents people thought would be key to how they would survive winter. we don t have footage of that. we ve seen multiple reports. we have footage of police using portable hand held saws to saw down the tent poles from the tents. how to you feel like the movement will be effected by that in particular? by the tearing down of tents? i mean, i think you have to make the distinction between the small sort of personal individual camping tents, which excuse me, i ve got a case of what they call zuccotti lung, the cough from being in the park. and these larger army tents. the library was now housed in one of these library tents. they had shelves and so on. people who say oh, these tents are places where they re private
where those cops beat up those protesting students. just last week. at this hour, the student protesters are reportedly planning to erect tents on the grass near where the lecture is to be given. because of that, they say they expect a confrontation with police. they expect to be removed from the free speech memorial plaza again. maybe in the middle of the mario savio free speech memorial lecture. mario savio s widow put out a statement saying the lecture was going to be moved outside, quote, in protest against the use of excessive police force and against nonviolent demonstrators. we said, we apologize for your inconvenience, but as mario said, there comes a time. today in new york city, very, very early this morning, in the middle of the night, new york city police raided and tore town and cleared out the occupy wall street encampment that has been at zuccotti park in lower manhattan for nearly two months. the raid happened at 1:00 a.m. in roughly, as most of the protesters there wer