case from so many other presidential investigations is how the trump world witnesses do speak out in public and they do speak through the television. what do you think stone is doing there in these appearances? i think he s just posturing. i think he s just talking tough. you saw it from rudy. we saw it from stone here. they re coming at stone hard from all angles. you can see that mueller is subpoenaing everyone around stone and you can see why. if you think back to the russian hacker indictment, i think it s paragraph 44, which everyone, including stone seems to agree is talking about stone, a person who had regular contact with senior members of the trump presidential campaign about the hacked e-mails. if i was mueller, my eyes would light up at that. i would want to know everything i could. who in the campaign, which senior members, plural, in the indictment is he talking to. you pull out all the stops to get that information. and, jennifer, if you go down that road, though, yo
paul manafort, donald trump jr. with that meeting at trump tower. there were many points of contact, but it s possible that the most sensitive potentially risky contacts were conducted by roger stone, because he was able to establish some distance from the campaign by leaving the campaign payroll. okay. john harwood, eugene scott, good to hear you both. thank you. so many legal questions remain about the michael cohen tapes. is it really inconceivable that an attorney would record a conversation with a client? some answers, next. alright guys let s go! let s do this. ( ) okay you gotta be kidding me. hold on, don t worry, there s another way. directions to the greek theater. (beep) can i get a connection? can i get can i get a connection? ohhh can i get a connection? trying find the old me
they call it white house reporting, he s being investigated for serious alleged financial crimes. he was escorted off the grounds at the white house and within hours put on the trump campaign payroll. what s afoot here? this is extraordinary. i think it s a really serious problem. there are a lot of people, clearly like jon mcatee and rob porter who have serious backgrounds and have been working in this white house. it s only now with scandal after scandal that they re being dealt with. it raises serious questions about what was going on since the beginning. we don t know details with assistant mcatee, but just to give a sense of who he is, he is president trump s body man. he is physically close to the president, almost as close as you can get, really. he s with him virtually every single day. has been with trump since the campaign and is privy to a lot of things. so there s a problem in the
guilty, but if the special counsel is looking into while he was on the campaign payroll and while he was slated to become national adviser in the trump pedestrian during the trump transition had a consuling business and meetings with the turkish government or representatives to essentially do a special op? the two people about whom we talked most for the campaign and flynn are the two about whom we are finding out the most about trady sections and actions. it also speaks to the breath of this investigation. it seems like there is more pieces to this and this could be a story and a separate investigation. that s fascinating. and the white house is
briefed the committee. the fbi did not do that, and now we have conflicts that think could have been avoided. reporter: and, jake, in some breaking news in the russia investigation, we are now learning that corey lewandowski, the former trump campaign manager, privately met with investigators behind closed doors today in discussing the russia investigation. lewandowski, of course, was on the campaign payroll at the time of some of the meetings that occurred with russian officials, including the june 2016 meeting in which donald trump jr., paul manafort, jared kushner and attended a meeting with russian operatives in trump tower. it s unclear whether or not he knew anything about it. lewandowski said he has no knowledge of that. we have not heard back from lewandowski, but learned he s the latest trump figure to be interviewed by the senate intelligence committee, jake. manu raju, thank you so much. breaking news about how russians tricked unwitting americans and hired them in a