become acting attorney general before the data actually did, the president had asked that rich donahue and i, we will meet with him i believe on december 15th as well. so, after you had some of these meetings and conversations with the president, what things did the president raise with you? so, that common element of all of this was the president expressing his dissatisfaction with the justice department, that in his view, had not done enough to investigate election fraud. but at different junctures, other topics came up at different intervals. so, at one point, he had raised the question of having a special counsel for election fraud. at a number of points, he raised requests that i would meet with his campaign counsel mr. giuliani.
of this was the president expressing his dissatisfaction at the justice department in his view had not done enough to investigate election fraud. at different junctures, other topics came up at different intervals so at one point he had raised the question of having a special counsel for election fraud at a number of points he raised requests that i meet with his campaign counsel, mr. guliani. at one point he raised whether the justice department would file a lawsuit in the supreme court. a couple of junctures there were questions about making public statements or about holding a press conference. one of the later junctures was this issue of sending a letter
expressing his dissatisfaction that the justice department, in his view, had not done enough to investigate election fraud. but at different junctures, other topics came up at different intervals. so, at one point, he had raised the question of having a special counsel for election fraud. at a number of points, he raised request that i meet with his campaign counsel, mr. giuliani . at one point, he had raised the weathered the justice department would file a lawsuit in the supreme court. at a couple of junctures, there were reflections about making public statements about holding a press conference. at one of the later junctures, was his issue of sending a letter to state legislatures in georgia
0 and don t forget, tomorrow more opinions coming from the supreme court. will dobbs be among them, will it be held until next week and what will the fallout be when we learn what the supreme court will do. sandra: and we ll be watching all of it. thank you for joining us here. i m sandra smith. john: i m john roberts. martha maccallum is up next with special coverage martha: that is correct. good afternoon, everybody. i m martha maccallum at fox news head quarters in new york. welcome to special coverage where moments away from the start of the fifth public hearing in the past two weeks. today s testimony is expected to focus on the former president s alleged pressure campaign on the justice department. that s what they re going to be testifying too during the 2020 election. testifying today, you see them sitting down at a table right now, getting ready. lots of cameras. you have jeffery rosen, the former attorney general that left the justice department after bill barr resigned
a meeting where they said this is illegal, you can t do this. they want cipollone so they can look the camera in the eye and say, donald trump was told by everybody, his attorney general, the top guy, they want to say his white house counsel, the top guy, his campaign manager, the top guy, the campaign counsel s office, the lawyers there, and so they want to make the case, donald trump was so determined to keep going after being told wrong, illegal, immoral, unconstitutional, that he got rudy giuliani, john eastman, to keep going on this rogue operation after being told by all the people who know the law, no. absolutely. and look, this is a question of whether or not pat cipollone, who as you were saying, jamie, clearly has had a lot to talk to, whether it was informally or not. a lot to talk to the committee about. he knows so much. and we already heard some testimony today talking about what he said.