well, you can. you can grow all sorts of things you. well, you can t grow concrete. you can. see you, cameron. cheerio. well, that is the interview. but after the broadcast, it got many millions of views on social media and continues to. cameron, when you hear that again, what do you think? oh, what a shame that that we have to endure such idiocy in our media spaces. i mean, it really is. it s crazy. he still has a platform. really? is that how you see it? i mean, do you think despite, you know, the way the interview went, would that be counted as ultimately a successful media appearance for you? i mean, what s your rationale when you decide who to do an interview with? yeah, i mean, off the back of that, i think a lot of people realised what we re up against. he clearly had his agenda for how he wanted the interview to go. just, you know, drilling into what i do for a living. i can only imagine the sorts ofjobs or notjobs that he was hoping that i had
between a protest that and a journalist these days when everybody has cameras, everybody has phones. it s difficult to tell who s a journalist and who s not. all they have to do is ask. which they didn t, do you say? is that right? they didn t. right. 0k. well, let me bring in someone who actually takes part in this kind of protest. cameron ford is from insulate britain. let me just play you a clip that you might have already heard of him on talk radio with mike graham from last year. what do you do for a living, cameron? i m a carpenter. a carpenter? right. so how safe is that for the climate? while i work with timber, which is a much more sustainable material rather than concrete. i also work with trees that have been cut down, then done. you. it s a sustainable building practice. how is it sustainable if you re killing trees because it s regenerative? you can grow trees, right?
publicity, is it fanning the flames? i m joined by cameron ford, who s a carpenter and spokesperson for insulate britain. and richard felgate, a documentary maker who was arrested last week while filming at hejust stop oil protest. also here, wolfgang blau, who left his top job at conde nast and co founded the oxford climate journalism network. danny shaw, who used to be a bbc home affairs correspondent. he s now free to say what he really thinks. and fiona harvey, the guardian s environment correspondent who is at cop27 in egypt and has just left a session to get on the phone to talk to us. fiona, what s the mood amongstjournalists? have your stories been cutting through on the front pages this week? well, the mood is pretty grim here, actually. last week, we had the world leaders arrive, there was great fanfare, they had great things to say, it was all hugely interesting. what s happening now is that it s a lot of men in suits gathered in windowless rooms, just pouring over pages of
LEBANON A few days after Cameron Ford began working at Headrest, he started rebuilding a stone wall.This wouldn’t be unusual, except Ford wasn’t hired to do maintenance work for the nonprofit organization that assists people with substance misuse.