can do whatever we want to shape the future, to become the creators of everything, and that means in what s appealing about it in politics is the claim, you know, the claim is every problem can be fixed. mark: so every person should have this, health care. and we ll have a perfect health care system. that s right. mark: and everybody who wants to come to the united states, should be able to come to the united states, or these utopian arguments which are never fulfilled and then the progressives argument is it s not fulfilled because you haven t surrendered enough of your liberty? is it? that s right it. calls itself, at the bottom of the claim is you can be happy without being good. you can are a self-governing person without believing in self-government or practicing it. the idea is there s nothing special anybody can come here. well, this is hard to be a