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MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber June 4, 2024 22:14:00

they both pled guilty and served time behind bars for crimes committed during their time working for donald trump. jax smith is probing another employees, and will nauta, walt is his codefendant and alleged co-conspirator. smith s team asked for a december jury trial date. that was after trump s defense teamed asked for the trial to be delayed until at least after the 2024 election. jack smith slamming that request, saying there s no basis to proceed in such an open-ended fashion, and calling trump s reasoning, quote, a baseless legal argument. joining me now is state attorney for palm beach county, florida. david, always so good to have you on the show. your thoughts on what could be yet another indictment coming

MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber June 4, 2024 22:13:00

developments in the mar-a-lago case. jack smith is widening his probe, telling a staffer they are a target of the probe and could be facing criminal charges. new york times reporting the employee received a letter in the past few weeks after appearing in may before a federal grand jury. prosecutors are scrutinizing whether the testimony was truthful. i want to note, nbc news has not confirmed this reporting, but this aggressive move proves jack smith will leave no stone unturned, even if it takes down others in trump s orbit. take michael cohen, for example, and allen weisselberg.

MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber June 4, 2024 22:04:00

if the grand jury does indict mr. trump, you move to dismiss the indictment. so it s a hail mary, joke, whatever you want to call it. i do not think it will work. i don t know the georgia supreme court, but it s hard to believe they would take this seriously. kirk, do you think it s hyperbolic when i say trump is panicking, because all this points to that reality. i m thinking about to chris christie said, the one thing he observed about donald trump is that he s absolutely terrified of going to jail. every night he lays his head down and thinking what it might be like to think about what it sounds like with the jail door. it s the first time he s been in the public spotlight, where fear will be the driving thing

MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber June 4, 2024 22:18:00

i think this is judge cannon 2.0. she ruled every time for donald trump, and had to get repudiated by the eleventh circuit court of appeals. now i think she s been chastened. i do not think she s going to give trump s request. i think the doj s request for december is a bit expedited, but i think that the judge is more likely to post ton it bit by bit, essentially could be death by a thousand paper cuts, where it could be delayed little by little, but to give what trump says, postpone it indefinitely, i think that s ridiculous and that would get her reversed. in the department of justice s reply in support of its continuance, it actually

MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber June 4, 2024 22:05:00

behinds his actions, rhetoric and posture. as we see this hail mary attempt in georgia, you know, it just illustrates for everybody that donald trump is terrified of going to jail. i agree. we ve also have michael cohen say the same thing, the fear of jail is actually something that s a driver for donald trump. i want to say with you for a second. trump could be facing two criminal cases soon. so can somebody like donald trump continue to rely on his inner circle if the inner circle is continuing to testify against him, either voluntarily or otherwise? i think that the walls have been closing in on donald trump this entire time. almost every single person who has worked for, either served the campaign and the white house at some point, they ended up testifying before a grand jury of some kind. when you go work for donald trump, you better have a lawyer

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