orders was someone like jared flynn or yes even president elect at the time donald trump. jared kushner or president trump as you said. let me ask you here about you wrote here about collusion. and this is a squishy thing. legal concept. where is the bar set? and how hard is that to have a conversation about that? it s such a good question. and i would commend to people, jeff tubin just did a fantastic piece that went online on the o new yorker today. which we know to be true. there is no collusion. you can have a conspiracy of a bunch of people can conspire to break a federal law or statute. but when trump says over and over, no collusion, no collusion, that s not a thing that mueller is even technically investigating. so really the question is, is he doing something else that we are all calling sloppily, i think, legal experts would tell you, sloppily calling collusion, that