got drunk and gave it away to montana. he got hoodwinked to giving it away to another state. john: and another state called jefferson. jefferson is one that went pretty far. john: northern california. northern california and southern oregon, if understanding about it northern california is well, southern california is cars and movie stars, northern california is forests and big foot. it s a totally different area and so it makes sense to split it up. nobody thought ca cald stay that big. in early december of 41 they were starting to have protests and petitions and then pearl harbor came and that they burden of proof to make it a state, the japanese attacked, now we have california. but they re still trying. john: thank you, michael, i find that fascinating. next, why do we even have states? what good are states? plus the self-destructive rule that makes it tougher for us to secure our important national