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policy. what we need are more lawful pathways and we need a significantly larger investment across the border lands for processing, humane processing of asylum seekers that are not punitive in nature. this deterrence policy is not going to work, it s going to result in more children crossing by themselves and more parents putting themselves in the hands of smugglers that find a way in. what we ve seen is that there is no level of deterrence that will deter because the desperation is so enormous and the desire to come to this country so great. there has to be another solution other than deterring your way out of it, because we ve even seen the most ghastly kidnapping of children, alida garcia, thank you so much for sharing your expertise with us. that is all in on this thursday night. alex wagner tonight starts right now. good evening, alex. yeah, chris. the deterrence isn t deterrence. the desperation is so acute, it ends up being a sort of pop s

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