the mob dispersed. this is the drama that stays with putin all the time. the fear of popular uprising. good evening. i ve fareed zakaria. we used to think we understood vladimir putin. smart but cold, ruthless by calculating, decht by rational, the kgb man who dragged away the angry mob in dresden, the leader carefully accumulating power over a country that spans 11 time zones, but now we see a different vladimir putin, reckless, emotional, a gambler, a terrible bloody assault on ukraine despite military failures and massive economic costs. he s even made nuclear threats. should americans be afraid? 92% do not trust putin, the highest negative rating pew
from those old pictures. not of putin, by the way, more of you. exactly. tell us, everyone is wondering about this question. he seemed rational, incremental, calculating, logical. he now seems emotional, you know, angry. what is your sense of the trajectory? so the first putin i met was western facing, anxious to 0 have a good relationship with the west. he used to insist we net in st. peter sburg because fs it was the great western face of russia. then i think he found the former russia too great and decided to consolidate power in an autocratic way and become a nationalist. so the second incarnation of putin, if you like, was cold and calculating and brutal but still i would say entirely rational
blair met with putin many, many, many more times. we are back here in london with tony blair. the aging protesters visible from those old pictures. not of putin, by the way, more of you. exactly. tell us, everyone is wondering about this question. he seemed rational, incremental, calculating, logical. he now seems emotional, you know, angry. what is your sense of the trajectory? so the first putin i met was western facing, anxious to have a good relationship with the west. he used to insist we net in st. petersburg because it was the great western face of russia. then i think he found the former russia too great and decided to consolidate power in an autocratic way and become a nationalist. so the second incarnation of putin, if you like, was cold and calculating and brutal but still
is something i m hearing more and more often from officials because obviously we ve seen millions of people flee ukraine, but 7.7 million are displaced and this is a big concern. yeah. we had an atlantic council panel a few days ago and the deputy prime minister made it clear the west has to be a lot more calculating in terms of what kind of humanitarian aid it gives. we also had some aid workers. they gave pretty horrific stories how the bottlenecks are affecting their operations, the costs of containers and stuff like that very high. i think the big need right now from what we ve heard was housing and the heartening thing to see happening now, there are a lot of ukrainians helping ukrainians, local ngos that have taken matters into their own hands building housing and stimulating the
pelosi. how important of a signal does this send to ukraine about the support from the u.s.? is this more than just optics? it absolutely is more than just optics. i don t think we can under estimate the significance of this trip. you know, it sends a strong message we understand that the best way to view the bully is show the bully we re not afraid of them. that s what we re doing by sending someone of pelosi s level there. i think it is also important to point out it s not just about speaker pelosi s visit. you look at the last several weeks, we h a nad a number of high-profile visits, the secretary of state, secretary-general. it is designed to send a message to putin the united states and international community stands with ukraine. despite the highly irrational nature of everything we ve seen of putin s behavior, he s still being calculating. he understands the visits are