he knew. now, it could be that if cohen s claims are corroborated, that donald trump jr. could be charged with lying to congress. that s a huge if. and it would, of course, bring a huge many legal and political troubles to president trump because what it would suggest, looking at the full picture, is that the president conspired with a foreign adversary, in this case russia, to tip the balance of the 2016 election in his favor. caitlyn, it can be a fool s game to try to figure out why the president is tweeting what he is tweeting about when he does it. you look this morning. there is some curious tweets. one about this meeting he had with the publisher of the new york times that took place on the 20th july. it s not like it happened before he left for this weekend in new jersey. he also tweeted about immigration and the prospects for a government shutdown. he said i would be willing to shut down the government if the democrats do not give us the votes for border security, which inc
involved are very different for people not to reaction emotional and viscerally to those imaging. we ll see if the public pressure continues. i would note, however, in regard to the meetings the president is versus with reps, he s talked and has, you know, had a compassionate approach, only to reverse course hours or days later. caitlyn thank you for the time. my thanks to kelly and jae as well. a longtime associate of the president s at that time reporting with roger stone and a russian national during the 2016 campaign in florida. it s pretty amazing out there. the world is full of more possibilities than ever before. and american express has your back every step of the way- whether it s the comfort of knowing help is just a call away with global assist. or getting financing to fund your business. no one has your back like american express.
look, he consulted, you know, with the department of justice ethics lawyers who apparently told him he didn t need to recuse himself. i don t totally understand it. to be honest, on its face, it seems like there is a conflict there. but i also know that those lawyers are not easy in their advice. if they thought he should recuse him i don t think they would be shy about saying so. there may be more to the story than we know, you know, with respect to those facts. but you know i just one more point back i think caitlyn is right. that this is about rosenstein really trying to speak to the public and try to resuscitate some of the damage that s been done bay other people in the administration to the institutions, you know, that uphold the rule of law. let s hope people are listening to that. coming up, the extreatment lengths china may go to spy
types of speeches that i have heard many, many times. i do think, though, that here he was very cognizant at the least of the fact that what he was saying is going to be read closely and heard. and so in that sense, i think he is sending a message. it s not that he changed necessarily what he was going to say. but his message he definitely said in that speech, you know, this is not we are not supposed to be partisan. we do not let our investigations in fact, we can be penalized, we can be punished if we let partisanship to come into this. he is trying in some sense i think to speak to the american public and explain something that you know is hard the explain if you are not in that world, which is that there is something above and beyond partisanship and above and beyond simply trying to put people in jail and win cases. it s about truth. and it s about finding the facts and following them. caitlyn, what do you think?
jonathan alter, susan del percio. michael cohen is back this the news for the tactics he used as donald trump as fixer. listen to how he spoke to a reporter who was doing a story on a trump pieiography which a deposition from ivana trump, donald s first wife, saying donald trump had raped her, which donald has denied. so i m warning you, tread very [ bleep ] lightly because what i m going to do to you is going to be [ bleep ] disgusting. do you understand me? what does it say about the way donald trump operated? like the mafia. the only question is if it s more like the sopranos or the godfather. i tend to be on the corleone side of the argument, because it s not just thuggish, it s stupid. the campaign reached out for comment and they sent him michael cohen. this, i think, shows that michael cohen was playing the