hi, everyone, it is 4:00 in new york. i m in for nicolle wallace. the potential indictment of donald trump which would be unprecedented for this country is a story that is playing out in both new york where a grand jury could issue an indictment any day now and in washington where republicans are quickly mounting a political defense of the former president, let s begin with the developments in the case itself at this hour. on monday team trump dispatched a last-minute witness to testify before the grand jury investigating hush money payments made to porn star stormy daniels back in 2016. attorney and former confidant to michael cohen robert costello, now after his testimony he previewed a likely defense for donald trump. that this then attorney michael cohen paid the hush money payments on his own terms, take a listen to what he told reporters. michael cohen told us that he was approached by stormy daniels lawyer and stormy daniels had negative information that she wa
in a mutual rivalry with the west and particularly the united states. meanwhile, the fight continues5 on the ground for cain ukrainians. a sign of solidarity as russia continues its attack in eastern ukraine. joining mect( now at the table columnist bobby gauche. it s great to see you. so it seems like this is a ok one-sidedq peace planc from xi i believe he s not even visitini ukraine. he might be calling or will be calling the ukrainian president your understanding of what this chinese play is here?e1 it s@ it s a plan that will suit putin because it would freeze everything in place leaving russia this charge of parts of ukraine that russia already has taken over and ite1 would give putin space to /
donald trump. well, democrats, the case they are making now is that there is an issue with the ukraine and that is the issue that donald trump is making with biden. it is hard to see him bringing this up without having it thrown back in his face. that s going to make some democrats wonder if he really is the right guy for the job. yeah, i agree with kim. i don t see how you can get to donald trump on ukraine without constantly bringing up hunter biden. common sense, what were the cain ukrainians what were the ukrainians buying? he had no experience on energy. paul: he s buying influence. the polls have gone up in terms of support of impeachment. nadler said about a year ago that before we could impeach, we would need to have the american people, even trump voters paul: right. that s not happened. most of the support has 79% of democrats supporting peach now supporting impeachment now but only 12 1/2% of
the case for impeachment this week? well, i think the short answer to that would be no. but let s put it in some caveats here. impeachment is what the house democrats want to make it to be. they can define impeachment. but nonetheless, most of the american people regard impeachment of a president as a grave serious activity. and the question is why had the democrats decided to elevate the issue of donald trump s interactions with the president of ukraine to an impeachable offense, as nancy pelosi says a violation of his oath of office? i think they are going to have difficulty reaching that bar. for some political reason, they are insisting on going that far. having said all that, this ukrainian issue with the president is not going away. i think more information is going to come out about rudy giuliani s involvement with the ukrainian government, the interactions between state department officials in ukraine and in washington who were trying to get the ukrainians to
administration to get the ukrainians to provide information on paul manafort, which they did, and i don t see anybody being outraged about foreign meddling in a u.s. election, notwithstanding that a ukrainian court found that ukrainian officials had been induced to meddle into the u.s. election and it didn t help ukraine. paul: it would be better for the country if both sides stopped doing it? correct, correct. but so far as it, you know, so far as it being a crime, i don t see it. paul: all right, thank you, attorney general, appreciate it. when we come back, a big week of developments as democrats vow to move quickly on impeachment. our panel is here with a look at what we ve