conflict of interest or someone trying to use you to get to someone and he wills show they have influence v you re supposed to report that under the strict reading of the rules. to me this is the white house is trying to say obviously joe biden, joe biden did nothing wrong. i disagree. i think the phone calls, the dinners. shannon: those are tricky. dana: the amount of dinners i didn t go to, partly because i wanted to go home. who paid for the dish s? shannon: good question f. you re a official at that level, you don t move around washington. jesse, it s not like he thought i m out for a stroll and going to cafe mill leeanne know. there s a plan to move the people from point a to point b and devon archer said there were multiple dinners. jesse: e-mails shows joe was invited to a dinner and planned on eventment six alias