campaign to try to get those mps around. at the moment it still looks like rishi sunak and penny morden are in a very strong position. what do you think it is that puts penny morden in such a strong position, as she has had from the start? i position, as she has had from the start? ~ , , start? i think it is interesting the wa , the start? i think it is interesting the way. the first start? i think it is interesting the way, the first couple start? i think it is interesting the way, the first couple of- start? i think it is interesting the way, the first couple of days - start? i think it is interesting the way, the first couple of days we | start? i think it is interesting the . way, the first couple of days we saw tom tugendhat had a bit of momentum, a bit of a surprise but penny mordaunt, for the past three orfour days, has been the surprise candidate with the momentum and because she has, despite what other campaigns are saying, she has cabinet experience, she was international
and none of us quite made it. and when i did call her when i first got this job she said just that. well, you never made it as gp, but at least you re now working in health care. ithought, oh, wow, thanks, mum. the next best thing! yeah, it is! as far as she s concerned, yeah. were you waiting by your phone this week, or did you just, like the rest of us, think, well, he s surely not going to change myjob now, i ve onlyjust got it? yeah, i. first of all, when you hear there s a reshuffle, may, may not happen, there s always speculation, so you never really quite know, and once it got going i. i don t think anyone realistically expected that myjob would change after 11 weeks or so in thejob. i think i ve done a fairly good job so far, so i wasn t expecting that. so, a fairly quick chat with the prime minister when he reappointed me, and, obviously, it was a privilege to be reappointed. but you ve done six cabinetjobs, you ve replaced three people who resigned, you resigned yours