you get a real sense both sides of the aisle right now are very, very animated in this moment for different reasons you. some interesting findings there from our new nbc news/ wall street journal poll. up next, the white house playing defense over the latest cabinet shake-up. david shulkin is firing back at the trump administration. not everyone s on board with the president s new pick. you re watching hardball.
that s our show for tonight. i have a programming note. this friday, 6:00 p.m. eastern, we have a live beat special with a big breakdown of the crisis hitting donald trump s digital firm and a very special guest who hasn t spoken before. this friday at 6:00. as for right now, it s hardball with chris matthews. talk of a pardon. let s play hardball. good evening. i m steve kornacki in for chris matthews. new revelations receipting to the special counsel s probe have raised serious questions whether he president trump or his attorneys considered an attempt to pardon witnesses in a possible effort to silence them. this comes as the president announced his latest cabinet shake-up, firing his veterans
the cabinet shake-up, bringing in john bolton. how does this affect the way that government handles top priorities, the turnover that we ve seen has been unprecedented. well, i think everybody would agree, this is turmoil as chaos and confusion, and it s not good for anything. we always believed that there should be an orderly process. and of course government is not clean or orderly ever. but this seems to be beyond normal bounds. one of the best lawyers ever. this guy won the case in florida against bush v gore. he won the presidency and from the supreme court, i forget how he got it. and he won the wonderful case for marriage equality with david boies. he is a hell of a lawyer. and he eloquently laid out his case for why he will probably never join the trump legal team. you have to if you are a lawyer who represents trump, you
harasser, if you have treated women whether they re interns or staffers or fellow members as sexual prey, you ve got to go. doesn t matter what party you are. and to your question, how do we get there? maybe we call on the public to say there should be a zero tolerance for those who serve in congress to make sure we re doing what s right, honest, fair, reasonable. want you guys to all be role models again. all i m asking, in a positive way. i agree. we should be. congresswoman, appreciate it. thanks for coming on. thank you. back with more on that possible cabinet shake-up, right after this. keep it here. david. what s going on? oh hey! that s it? yeah. everybody two seconds! dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations on your acceptance. through the tuition assistance program, every day mcdonald s helps more people go to college.
charles the monarch belongs to a local business owner. people saw him roming around people thought it was a real lion. charles is actually shaved to look like a lion on purpose. it s a tribute to old dominion university s mascot. that s your 5@5:30. thousand creative. i kind of like that. the cabinet shake-up for president obama s second term continues this morning. he s hours away from naming his new treasury secretary. now the president has to worry about filling yet another post. doug luzader is live from washington with more. good morning. current white house chief of staff lew he is picking someone who knows the numbers but republicans will remember his sharp elbows. as a number cruncher his resume is pretty solid. he was the white house budget director during the clinton