changes, or administrative changes. we are also working on that. january six committee is busy gathering testimony from trump cabinet officials, ahead of more primetime hearings set to resume in the coming weeks. tuesday the committee interviewed robert o brien, trump s former national security adviser, about cabinet discussions on whether to invoke the 25th amendment to remove donald trump from office. committee chair bennie thompson says investigators have spoken to, quote, pretty much every single person in the cabinet. for the most part they have all indicated a willingness to talk to the committee. joining me now is congressman madeleine dean. vice chair of the judiciary and financial committees. and former house impeachment manager. welcome, congresswoman. before we get into the january 6th discussion, what is your reaction to what we are learning about the documents that we recovered from mar-a-lago? good morning michael. it s a real privilege to be on with you so thank you
shelves. you never thought he would be as interested in shelves as you will be on breakfast. get in touch the usual way. thanks, hannah. let s take a look at today s papers they all lead on the conservative leadership race. the telegraph carries a picture of the final two candidates rishi sunak and liz truss. the paper says the advantage is with ms truss as the final stage begins, with recent polls suggesting party members favour her over mr sunak. the guardian s headline says the coming weeks look set to be a blue on blue dog fight. it reveals private cabinet discussions during the first two televised debates, and says both campaigns admit they expect a summer of difficult headlines for the candidates. meanwhile, the times reports that mr sunak has told tory members that they should vote for him or risk losing power. it quotes the former chancellor saying he believes he is the only candidate who can beat labour, but also reports that his team believes he needs to gain moment
rose. it was the discussion at the table, and made a difference. and food prices went up. but we ve never seen anything like putin s tax on both food and gas. america should also understand our economy has unique strengths, that if we can build on. and with that, let s bring in our lead off panel. peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the new york times. clint watts, west point graduate, army veteran, former fbi special agent. and a distinguish research fellow at the foreign policy research institute. and barbara mcquade, a veteran federal prosecutor, former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan. she worked with the doj during the biden transition. she s a professor at the university of michigan s law school. it is good to see you all. peter, you are paper, new reporting tonight on cabinet discussions about using the 25th amendment to remove trump. what more can you tell us? that s one of the things, of course.
in our lead off panel. peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the new york times. clint watts, west point graduate, army veteran, former fbi special agent. and a distinguish research fellow at the foreign policy research institute. and barbara mcquade, a veteran federal prosecutor, former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan. she worked with the doj during the biden transition. she s a professor at the university of michigan s law school. it is good to see you all. peter, you are paper, new reporting tonight on cabinet discussions about using the 25th amendment to remove trump. what more can you tell us? that s one of the things, of course. list cheney talked about at the hearing last night. she said the members of trump s cabinet did discuss using the 25th amendment to remove trump in the aftermath of the january six election. but you know, what they discovered was that vice president pence, even though we have broken with the president over using his powers,
did you, looking back, use your position to say either to fellow cabinet ministers or indeed to some of the scientific advisers making the case, hold on, and if not, why not? was there not a forum in which you could really do it? look, i may be the only person left in the cabinet who believes that cabinet discussions should remain confidential so i m not going to be drawn on what may or may not have been set in cabinet, and what discussion that one has with other ministers. but it is fair to assume that a variety of approaches were inevitably considered. i think what the government got most right was constantly going with the grain of public opinion. i actually think the first lockdown happened before the government introduced any regulations because people decided it was important. i think the last non lockdown over christmas almost happened because people decided to limit their social engagements,