department of conservation estate, including lots of our original old growth indigenous rainforests, and it is an area of concern for us and it is an area of concern for us and something we are talking to other countries around the asia pacific about how we can work together to draw that to a close. has new zealand signed up to this deal, mr shaw? has new zealand signed up to this deal, mr shaw? . . . ., deal, mr shaw? yes, we have. we made that decision deal, mr shaw? yes, we have. we made that decision in deal, mr shaw? yes, we have. we made that decision in cabinet deal, mr shaw? yes, we have. we made that decision in cabinet yesterday - that decision in cabinet yesterday just in time so we are able to do so. just in time so we are able to do so, ., ., , just in time so we are able to do so. . ., , ., ., so. new zealand is one of the few countries in so. new zealand is one of the few countries in the so. new zealand is one of the few countries in the world so. new zeala
is changing its colours. deforestation means the rainforest in brazil now emits more carbon than it stores. the message from here is a distress signal. orla guerin, bbc news, in the amazon rainforest. iamjoined i am joined now byjames shaw, who is new zealand s minister dealing with climate change. mr shaw, really good to have you with that. i would love your reaction firstly on the news on deforestation, ending deforestation by 2030, because new zealand prides itself, doesn t it, on its green, outdoorsy image? we do. it is on its green, outdoorsy image? - do. it is not always fully borne out by reality but we have about 30% of new zealand s landmass covered by