propping up the insurance companies. the buying pools, where you can enjoy an association, drive prices down. they absolutely hate it, because they think it might eat into their profit. they love sort of prive taatizi their $15 billion a year profit but socializing their losses the in the individual market. i have absolutely no sympathy for the insurance companies to be bailed out by the taxpayer. that $15 billion in profit, that s where the risk should come from. that s where when we have to absorb risk when people get sick should come out of their pocket, not the taxpayer s pocket. senator rand paul, thank you so much for being on this morning. thank you, senator. just ahead, we ll hear from republican senator bill cassidy who has his own concerns about the plan. and as we go to break, president trump tries to apply pressure to democrats.
from tom price. what we do like his health care associations where he can join a buying pool or group to bring down prices. this is part of the answer. the 11 million people in the individual market, their premiums are going through the roof, so you ve got to let them join a buying pool. ed: house republicans say the premiums are quick to spike even more. that s why you replace it with market reforms. get rid of the mandates which i think paul ryan would agree with.ke expanded savings accounts and then you expand health care associations. these associations are like co-ops and buying pools. ed: house republicans tell me, you can t get to 60 votes with that it s not going to go anywhere. i can t be blamed if somebode won t vote for something, it s just not a bad idea ed: how do you bring democrats in? we have to convince people it s a good idea and we bring it forward.
filibuster in a budget bill. there are things like interstate shopping on health care, associate to buy nationwide through buying pools, medical liability reform, all those things we very much believe in which is part of our better way agenda, you cannot put in a budget bill because then they can filibuster that entire bill. tucker: tort reform and lots of other things and i don t want to keep pressing you on this. let me finish the point. tucker: these are members of congress, they know what the reconciliation bill is. are finding that some don t. we are a first installment to gut obamacare, repeal mandates, taxes and spending. then we replace it with conservative republican tax policy that is long-standing conservative reform. health savings accounts, tax credits to buy what you want to buy in state regulated marketplace is not the federal and at risk of pools. this is some things that conservatives in the heritage foundation had been pushing it for years. if that the other p
associate to buy nationwide through buying pools, medical liability reform, all those things we very much believe in which is part of our better way agenda, you cannot put in amu budget bill because then they can filibuster that entire bill. tucker: tort reform and lots of other things and i don t want to keep pressing you on this. let me finish the point. tucker: these are members of congress, they know what the reconciliation bill is. we were finding that some don t. we are a first installment to gut obamacare, repeal mandates, taxes, and spending. then we replace it with conservative republican taxs policy that is long-standing conservative reform. health savings accounts, tax credits to buy what you want to buy in state regulatedco marketplace is not the federal and risk of pools. this is some things that conservatives in the heritage foundation had been pushing it for years. the other pieces that we really believe in, tom price in phase
what is an example of that? interstates shopping across state lines. we love that policy. it s critical. as you know, you cannot put that in a budget reconciliation bill. we believe in association health plans. let people through their trade associations, farmers, small businesses through the nfib plan, both buy their health insurance in buying pools. we believe in that policy. but we know the rules don t allow us to put that in reconciliation. the medical liability reform. they re cranking up healthcare costs, practicing of medicine, which makes healthcare more expensive. we can t put that in reconciliation. we ll push those to the finish line. those will take 60 votes in the senate. so phase one is this repeal and replace bill. tom price regulates the market and brings certainty to have more choices and more plans and gets the states back in the game