getting some experts in. neil: in the end, so i understand, you do envision that there s going to be a governmental effort the reign these guys in. can you go too far here? yes, that s the issue. they re crying for a carve out, especially protectsism, safety and privacy concerns. we don t want to go too far so that we overreach. we quell startups. the little guys, the smaller businesses from coming in to the market. if giants, google and facebook, they can fight neil: but today s giant is tomorrow s dinosaur. you have to be careful of the market forces and competition. that used to be the case. but now the giants tend to eat up the little people. we re trying to make up fair playing ground. the antitrust will be impacted by this. neil: thanks very much. brilliant legal mind on this. meanwhi meanwhile, one way to get