gan newsom, arnold schwarzenegger and all these presidents. he loves the cool kid aspect of politics. he s probably watched a lot of west wing in his day, too, but that s not going to happen, because we know what team and style he s picked. mark, i ll only jump in to say this feels way more house of cards than west wing . feels for veep because house of cards was efficient. we saw the clerk just moments ago that was formally reading the results that officializes the tenth defeat for mccarthy. and they go through it again. we re looking at the floor. this will be vote 11. i don t know which producers you tend to listen to, mark, but there is a beloved producer in american music and culture with the tag line, run it back turbo . and boy is that the motif of this house, because what we re watching right now i want to
there are four or phi that don t make it to the end of this? that speaks to the math. professor snider, before you joined us, we talked about the larger fact force. i think a tendency in the media is to overpersonalize things. people say, look how business organized mccarthy so compared to boehner who got through it. bane her a much, much larger margin, and if there were five votes hanging for boehner he would not become speaker. went through that before you joined us. so to michael s point, buckle up. this is what five-vote margin looks like in this republican party with these kind of individuals, some of whom, as i mentioned, may not self-identify personally as members of that party. we have a two party system, but may be something else. then we have the danger mikele is finding his vote of optimism, which isn t what you re known for, michael. but the professor is reminding
that s one scenario. if we are witnessing the defenestration of kevin mccarthy like i said, what happens in several week could be different if it went that long, but i wonder if pride comes after the fall. 11, 12 what s the number at which this thing i can t call it a strategy, because i use words with precision, and it doesn t look like a strategy but this process hits a point where they say, gosh, 12, 15, 19, this ain t working dog? who s going to make that call? at a certain point, mccarthy s allies, some of these mainstream republicans are going to take it behind closed doors and say, this has got to stop. then they ll have to unless there s some movement we can t foresee at this point. i mean, i m glad that you re saying, ari, this is so unprecedented and historic that we re watching this live. so much of this is hashed out