you have to understand that when you are watching two people negotiate, two officials, what i usually see is that a u.s. official makes a plea to the other side to come along to our side and do what we want, because it is the right thing to do or we make this a moral about this is what we believe that the world looks like or this is what we should do. and i think that it does not work that way, the other side rings in their economy and the trade issues, and the integrate the issues into a negotiation. president trump is the first u.s. official that i have seen that actually pulls in every piece of the agricultural department. martha: with the southern border, going to be about nato, they do not have security, it s going to hurt you there. he is joining the economic issue with the diplomatic issue in a way that i think is completely unprecedented. and you have seen that from the front row. the iran deal, it is largely believe that he is not going to recertify this on may 12th. so you
situation where you are going to have two approach that discussion with chancellor angela merkel, do you think there is room for european countries to renegotiate the de? let me tell you where there is room for german companies to stop doing business inside iran, we cannot have that. you look at what iran does, their human rights record, whether it is working to destabilize syria. the world importer of terrorism. they are a state sponsor of terrorism, they spend billions of dollars to spread terrorism around the world. why would a country want to do business with them? so i think that it is going to be incumbent upon me into that kind of explained to german businesses that they do not want to do business inside iran, it is just not right. martha: what about trade, you heard the president and that sound bite, he wants to be have
released as part of this negotiation that they would be careful not to do something like this. tell us what you know about this man. mr. amaz, is an american born in the united states. his father was an influential governor inside iran. the family moved out because obviously they were concerned with the new regime that had come in. mr. mamazi and his brother have been influential helping businesses do business inside iran. and they both have been vocal about bringing down sanctions. as we ratchet up sanctions on the iranian regime these two brothers were always calling for
we still don t have all of ambassador stevens emails. it took us months to find out secretary clinton hasn t using a government account. and they prevented the american people from understanding how the case happened and to make sure it never happens again. bill: thank you. martha: another american has been arrested and is being held in iran. the fourth american behind bars and fears another political pawn may be in the works. fresh off the nuclear deal we have struck with that country. he has an interesting story. bill: a plane bursting into flames moments before it is set to take off. i heard like a bump. and i heard people screaming, running to the front, i turn around and look in the window
someone like this, no one should be traveling to iran right now. this is a regime with a legal system that s random. they can come up with charges randomly and without explanation, and they do. we have seen several individual being held against their will. i worked on several cases. once in a while we get someone free. but it should not be a part of the iran negotiations. this is a separate deal. the more we put it with any type of political issue, the more individual will be at risk because the iranians will grab them and use them as leverage. martha: what response do you expect from the administration on this? i don t think the administration should be involved at all. they have a point person inside the state department. it s a terrible idea.