say the establishment would probably look over if jeb does decide to run. so, what happens to this list of potential candidates? well, i think they re in trouble. but i think that the big question is whether jeb can extend beyond the rich people on wall street and in florida and california who love the bush brand and love him and really think that jeb is the best of the bushes. you know, for bushologists, that s a standard line. and whether he can do it whether he can broaden the appeal out that remember rudy giuliani a few years ago, he had a big brand name coming out of new york. the establishment loved rudy giuliani who kept skipping primaries and caucuses and saying, i m going to make my stand here in this later one. by the time rudy got around to making his last stand, he was finished. jeb can t do that. jeb s got to die in and he s got
spanish, a successful two-term governor of a major state. he remains extremely popular in that state, and it just happens to be florida, which as we know, is a major battleground. so there are some things certainly going for jeb bush. but there are cross currents that would flow against this idea. there are a lot of people within the republican base who are distrustful of jeb bush. i think they re suspicion of his stance on immigration reform, education reform, common core, which he s a supporter of. and the bush brand, the bush name in politics. are americans and voters really prepared for yet another bush presidency? yeah, in fact, that article said a bush candidacy would test whether the nation still has a hangover i don t know ifwas t it said from the george w. bush administration. there s also something interesting going on in florida, which is that jeb bush and
my last race. if i win, i wouldn t run again. he ended up facing a well-financed challenger who s trying to win the house seat now, not later. incredible to think about running at age 90. the other one, george p. bush. let s listen to what he had to say and get your reaction on the other side. any advice from your dad? well, at the beginning of the effort, you know, he gave the best advice, and that s outhustle your competition. that s been the best advice i ve gotten in the family. how about your uncle? no, he always said, you know texas is like its own country. you know, i was born in houston, went to texas schools, married a beautiful west texan, and my boy is a third generation, but until you put your name on a statewide ballot, you don t fully get that sense. so the bush brand remains very strong in texas. well, right. and he s set up to win land commissioner and be a force in texas politics going forward. as we ve seen, though, there s so many people who are going t
on. that s the past. where clinton, because bill clinton has this reverence higher than ever now and hillary coming off a great run of secretary of state i don t think has the wear out factor that the bush brand has. you know, i mean, maybe in manhattan, on the upper east side, but i will tell you that s not true, joe. in middle america okay. donny, you don t have to be so personal about it. that makes me sad. i don t like making you sad. i don t like making you sad. you upper east siders are so arrogant and at the center of the world and can talk down to most of us who come from middle america and live on the upper west side. seriously what s wrong with you? carlos danger is a neighbor of mine does not mean i have hubris and stand above. danger is your middle name, donny deutsch. you know, the we had a lot of people in 2008 thinking that hillary clinton was going to coast in and barack obama, yes, he won because he was an extraordinary candidate, because
populace sort of candidate because mika, there are going to be a lot of people restless if they see a clinton/bush rematch coming up in 2016. joe if that s the direction we re moving if you look at that list, and you go down you go down and this is a party that really does have to decide what it thinks about some really big issues, not just defense, but immigration, for example, you ve got paul ryan and marco rubio and chris christie perhaps on one side and ted cruz and perhaps rand paul on the other side. it s it s a party this could be a kind of bloody fight. these are interesting articulate figures who state their positions very well, and but this could be rough. joe, i don t know if i agree with you on the bush/clinton thing. i would separate bush and clinton where to me the bush brand, might gut meter tells me, people are really ready to move