pocket and he issued thanks for the donated soup or chili. but there s a serious question here, do the locals support this movement, this occupation? the bundys have said they will leave if they don t have local support. you heard the sound earlier suggesting they don t. but just a few moments ago, six or eight locals, who identified themselves as family ranchers in the area and they said, we don t support the tactics, the armed occupation, but we do support the ideas the bundys are putting forward. let me ask you about a kfrgss online today about a tweet that compared ammon bundy to rosa parks. what do you know about that? yeah, so the ammon bundy twitter account has been getting a lot of attention. he seems to think that he s like rosa parks, except he doesn t think that at all. that account is totally bogus. msnbc was able to confirm that yesterday, because we were talking to ammon bundy when he was supposedly tweeting and we said, this isn t you, is it?
violent. back up! reporter: the issue was over land rights, the bundys are cattle ranchers. the family s time dating back to the 18 oc00s. for the next century, families, multiple generations went about their business. a problem, the u.s. government declared a turtle an endangers species that put an end to livestock raising on federal land. for bundy it was devastating. most packed up and left. bundy stayed. said no, not only said no i said hell no. reporter: for more than two decades, he s been repeatedly fined for grazing his cattle on public land. the bill totaling more than $1 million. the bundys refuse to pay for one simple reason. they don t recognize the feds as having any legal authority. what s your name? my name is whip holt and i just assume to go by that. reporter: just like in oregon, bundy had armed militia
they seem to think that they have the absolute right to free graze on federal lands and if they don t get what they want they can simply do an armed takeover of government buildings. so there is no legal basis for it. but all these groups, they ve grown from 300 groups to over a thousand groups during the obama administration. they all seem to think they have a constitutional right that s been trod upon. and many of them or some of them will take matters into their own hands, like the bundys did last year in 2014 and as this group, which also includes some of the bundys doing with the buildings there. why is the bundy family involved? they became famous for the standoff two years ago. they re involved now. why would the bundys do this and what do you think they re trying to accomplish? they ve been in a 20-year battle with the bureau of land management. they seem to think they have the
and his team. they seem to be separate. i mean, in other words, that the hammonds and the bundys are not actually in collusion, and actually are quite separate in their goals. but for the government, whether it s the local public safety or federal law enforcement, right now the main goal is to protect human life and to make sure that the situation does not escalate, and the federal government has all the time in the world. i mean, these guys are very isolated. they re not going to be able to survive that much longer. now, for people who are watching this after a year when we ve seen unarmed black men being shot by police. we ve seen islamaphobe ya because of the behavior of a new jihadiists affecting some people wondering why so mild for this. are they being treated
men supporting him. it s no different than mexican drug cartels coming to you and down in mexico and telling you to pay money to stay on your own property. it s the same thing. reporter: or ignoring the fees the fed seized some of bundy s cattle but faced with the prospect of a bloody confrontation, the government relented and bundy and supporters claimed victory. [ cheers ] reporter: for awhile, the federal remember gate was a hero to rand paul and sean hannity until bundy said this. i want to tell you one more thing i know about the negro and often wondered were they better off as saves picking cotton and having family live or better under government subsidy. just like that the bundys basically lost all their main stream support and fell off the radar until people with the same last name converged on a small town in oregon. dan simon, cnn, san francisco. digging deeper into this group and militia movement that