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change? i think that s the basis on which you can build policy. we are building policy on our emotions, on what we think, what we guess. we guess the teacher if they had guns would do something. we don t know any of that. we guess mental illness screening people with mental illness will help. we don t know. we don t let the cdc study it. charles blow, appreciate it. thank you. here s a little bit more from the president. we mentioned what he said about the nra. listen. i had lunch with wayne la pierre, chris cox and david lehman of the nra. they want to do something. i said, fellows, we have to do something. it s too long now. we have to do something. we re going to do strong background checks. very strong. we have to do background checks. if we see a sicko, i don t want him having a gun. don t worry. you are not going to get don t worry about the nra. they re on our side. half of you are so afraid of the nra. there is nothing to be afraid
president won in 1988 and bill clinton won in 1996 and i come back do what i said this election will be more about building policy going forward than a particular scandal. chris: joe? all thank you is right. look, to the extent people have more to distaste of government and more distaste of corruption scandals, et cetera, what does not hurt everyone. it would have a bigger impact on congressional races around the country than on the presidency but i do think it the republicans can not try to exploit it too much. chris: first, you worked in the white house for almost seven years. did you ever see any signs of a breakdown in secret service discipline especially did you hear anything about agents going on the road before a presidential trip and partying? karl: this is one of the most dangerous moments. the secret service be wired up