what about not putting the wars in iraq and afghanistan on the books so the american people can see. that was the case during the bush years. they should have done that. no question about that. it is not true that paul ryan s budget doesn t pal. it does balance in 50 years. he was blaming the president for some kind of stuff like that. it is about the trajectory of the debt. the president s budget the debt goes like this under president obama. under paul ryan goes like this and eventually balances. shannon: gentlemen, we have to leave it there. agreeing to disagree. we will work on charts and graphs. thank you, shannon. shannon: you don t like this and this. we will have you back with visual aids. thank you both for coming. you heard what juan and steve think. what do you think? who is responsible for the budget mess. lisa says why don t they all accept responsibility. all of them man up. fire them all and start over. keep tweeting to us. we will read more responses
looking for somebody to blame. bill: governor perry says the president and congress should work through the thanksgiving holiday and the weekend to undo the budget mess but, apparently, that s not going to happen. martha: so michele bachmann with a similar message likening our ballooning debt to the european crisis. she s saying that our failure to work out a deal is a tragedy. watch this. we look at greece, and it s obvious to all of us what has to be done. they ve got to cut back on spending, the welfare state isn t working. well, pick up a mirror and look into it. that s the united states. we re spending too much money too. we can t afford a welfare state, and so don t do it anymore. martha: so what would she have done differently as president? michele bachmann will be here tomorrow, and we ll ask her that question. bill: a lot of questions on the line there. in the meantime, the supercommittee s failure means billions of dollars in if automatic spending cuts are supposed to kick
statement. after months of hard work and intense deliberations, we have come to the conclusion today that it will not be possible to make any bipartisan agreement available to the public before the committee s deadline. despite our inability to bridge the committee s significant differences, we end this process united in our belief that the nation s fiscal crisis must be addressed and that we cannot leave it for the next generation to solve. we remain hopeful that congress can build on this committee s work and can find a way to tackle this issue in a way though works for the american people and our economy. keeping them honest, they remain hopeful that congress can build on their work and they say they re united in the belief that the fiscal crisis must be addressed, yet they didn t do the job they were asked to do. the statement goes on to say, we want to express our appreciation to every member of this committee, each of whom came into the process committed to achieving a
forget about all that talk about failure not being an option. the six democrats and six republicans on the committee have announced this they can t reach a deal. to cut at least $1.2 trillion from the budget. for legislative reasons they had to announce a deal by today. but there s no deal after negotiating for 2 1/2 months, and they don t even have the guts to explain why on camera and take questions from reporters. after the markets closed, democratic senator patty murray and republican congressman jeff hensarling released this statement. after months of hard work and intense deliberations, we have come to the conclusion today that it will not be possible to make any bipartisan agreement available to the public before the committee s deadline. despite our inability to bridge the committee s significant differences, we end this process united in our belief that the nation s fiscal crisis must be addressed and that we cannot leave it for the next generation to solve. we rem
the six democrats and six republicans on the committee have announced this they can t reach a deal. to cut at least $1.2 trillion from the budget. for legislative reasons they had to announce a deal by today. but there s no deal after negotiating for two and a half months. they don t even have the guts to explain why on camera and take questions from reporters. after the markets closed, democratic senator patty murray and republican congressman jeff hensarling released this statement. after months of hard work and intense deliberations, we have come to the conclusion today that it will not be possible to make any bipartisan agreement available to the public before the committee s deadline. despite our inability to bridge the committee s significant differences, we end this process united in our belief that the nation s fiscal crisis must be addressed and that we cannot leave it for the next generation to solve. we remain hopeful that congress can build on this committee s w