and that is by shifting the debate away from the shutdown and towards the sequester. so in december of this year, there is going to be automatic sequester of spending if congress doesn t act. if the president doesn t improve increasing the spending cap. the budget control out said that obama signed in 2011 is going to go into effect. and if trump doesn t agree to lift those spending caps, then there is going to be an automatic $55 billion reduction in domestic spending that democrats consider priority. there ll also be $71 billion cut in defense will not make conservatives happy. but democrats will have to decide. there is no shutdown involved, just automatic reduction in spending. are we willing to sacrifice $55 million in domestic spending to deny donald trump the measly $5.7 billion for the border wall? martha: but with the question here, couldn t they all decide if they want to delay again went the sequester kicks in, kick the count can down