recall. do either of you guys know what the threshold is to get that on the ballot? it s about 25% of the last voters in the election. bill: 25% of wisconsinites. personally i don t think that the democrats are going to pull off a successful recall, the people that they are targeting. not going to be able to do it against governor walker. but, bill back to your talking points. bill: why do you say that, mr. harris? 25%, i don t know if that s a real high threshold. i think they might be able to get that. well, if there is also a recall election going against some of the democrats who head out in illinois as well. it could be a wash. bill: i think it might get on the ballot. i don t know when. could it possibly get on this year in 2011. did i disagree with sly that this is going to be a battle but we have to get to the basic points here. in your talking points, you were talking about how this is
milwaukee. conservative radio talk show host james harris and madison sly sylvester. was that a fair talking points mr. sylvester. well, i didn t agree with it all of it, but i think you gave a run down of what s happened and i think it s a very sad day for the state that actually started public employee unions. bill: i didn t mislead anybody. i gave the facts as we have them. the governor won. he won. the governor won this battle. but i truly believe in wisconsin, which is very different than alabama or mississippi or idaho for that matter. i believe the public employee unions and workers, nurses, plow drivers are going to win the war. bill: how? because the law is the law. and it s going to be not overturned. four years it might be if governor walker s promises of fiscal responsibility and adding 250,000 jobs don t come true, i assume he will loose next time around. but for four years the union power will be diminished in the state of wisconsin. i believe that the governor
there is no possibility of a recall. do either of you guys know what the threshold is to get that on the ballot? it s about 25% of the last voters in the election. bill: 25% of wisconsinites. personally i don t think that the democrats are going to pull off a successful recall, the people that they are targeting. not going to be able to do it against governor walker. but, bill back to your talking points. bill: why do you say that, mr. harris? 25%, i don t know if that s a real high threshold. i think they might be able to get that. well, if there is also a recall election going against some of the democrats who head out in illinois as well. it could be a wash. bill: i think it might get on the ballot. i don t know when. could it possibly get on this year in 2011. did i disagree with sly that this is going to be a battle but we have to get to the basic points here. in your talking points, you were
reaction, joining us from milwaukee. conservative radio talk show host james harris and madison sly sylvester. was that a fair talking points mr. sylvester. well, i didn t agree with it all of it, but i think you gave a run down of what s happened and i think it s a very sad day for the state that actually started public employee unions. bill: i didn t mislead anybody. i gave the facts as we have them. the governor won. he won. the governor won this battle. but i truly believe in wisconsin, which is very different than alabama or mississippi or idaho for that matter. i believe the public employee unions and workers, nurses, plow drivers are going to win the war. bill: how? because the law is the law. and it s going to be not overturned. four years it might be if governor walker s promises of fiscal responsibility and adding 250,000 jobs don t come true, i assume he will loose next time around. but for four years the union power will be diminished in the state of wisconsin. i
that s why public employee unions have emerged as the strength of the union movement because private sector unions are on the defensive. they need to lower costs to pete internationally. that s one of the challenges these union lead rs have having right now. thanks to john harwood. appreciate it. you bet. and round one of the budget battle on capitol hill. the house and senate run in an hour after making some progress on a short-term spending plan to avoid a government shutdown. senate democrats are now backing a two-week deal that includes $4 billion in cuts. what will happen two week frs now? democratic senator kent conrad is chairman of the budget committee and joins me now and has been part of these negotiations. thanks so much. let s review the bidding here. is this just a two-week delay in